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Hi, I’m trying to help a friend who’s being bullied by a shard chat. No one has his PO but they lock him anyway. If you know any of these guys, could you please share this? He's RIP JSedious. The name is a memorial to a cancer victim. They never let her in either, but maybe we can change that?

Hi, I’m trying to help a friend who’s being bullied by a shard chat. No one has his PO but they lock him anyway. If you know any of these guys, could you please share this? He's RIP JSedious. The name is a memorial to a cancer victim. They never let her in either, but maybe we can change that?

joerg31415

Sorry guys but this thread is getting too out of hand for my opinion... While I try to let submissions stand if possible it is rather off-topic, we have borderline witch hunting (including ingame information), rather distasteful comments, and a TOS violation that might lead to the account being locked down if brought to the attention of CG. Before things escalate further I'd rather remove this thread and strongly urge the affected parties to get to a (private) mediation chat to solve the issue. Again, sorry and please stay safe all!


car98sul

At first I saw all the super league guilds MAW etc. Then I was thinking maybe it’s someone who just got 1 GL SEE and can suddenly break into top 1 spot just because the game meta is useless now. So that’s why they blocked her. But no, RIP Jsideous is a 8 million GP account with all 5 GL’s. Really don’t see why they are blocking her if there’s no one with the same payout. Though I also find it hard to see no one with else with that payout in such and established shard


Heavy_Lock_1141

there is if you read up, like 13 with the same PO in the top 50. This is a day 1 shard so most have been here since day one, tho a lot of new faces shown up since SLKR and SEE came along then all the scrubs came out of the woodwork like ants


UncertainSerenity

Right because top 10 should be whales only and anyone who doesn’t spend insanes amount of money is a scrub. Get off your high horse. You don’t own a payout spot because you have been there longer. You do not deserve more because you whale. Shard mafias with attitudes like yours are the worst.


wisemantonofski

I feel that, my shard won't even negotiate with me. So they make trouble for me and I make trouble for them around the various payout times in the evening


partboozie

This is so silly because you’d all be making more crystals if you weren’t getting sniped.


delete_43

True, but if you let in everyone now then you'll have a lot of people that climb for a few weeks and then only occasionally. If people can show they are committed to put in the daily effort to get to 1, then letting them in is good. But you have to put up a fight for a bit to see if they really are committed.


MotorBicycle

Things work better when you work together. If someone wants into a shard chat, why not let them?


delete_43

Don't get me wrong, I'm the guy in the shard chat saying we should let more people in. But the current meta is making it really tough. Coordinating is good, but very difficult when 5 people share a payout and climb from the 50s. That's a lot of people to avoid and climb around, including those 2hrs before you and 2hrs after. So if you want in the chat, you have to show some real commitment. I don't want a guy in the hour before me sitting at 27 for two hours and deciding last minute that he wants to climb a bit, and the next day not climbing at all. It's too crowded now for that.


ReptilianTapir

Nonsense. Having a new guy in who end up not/rarely climbing is the best thing for an established shard chat. One less foe, yet no/little top spot sharing. This reasoning is beyond me.


delete_43

You clearly haven't been in a crowded shard with a guy in the previous hour sometimes climbing and other times not. It makes life difficult for everyone as you wait on them, then go around, only to get bumped because they have to go through you anyway.


ReptilianTapir

Sounds better than having him snipe you randomly because he doesn't cooperate.


spitfire18213

Sorry about your friend's luck, hes most likely screwed.


dm051973

Find 3 or 4 people with payouts around yours and start a second shard chat. Work together to climb and defend each others payouts. And then do petty things like chain Kane back to 30 every day even if it costs each of you 50 crystals. Or be aggressive and try and invite everyone in the top 50 who isn't in the chat to join yours and constantly being a pain in their ass. It is sort of a losers game with the only winners being CG.


smuthyala

I mean imagine going against shards that constantly try to keep you down. It's painful. I for one don't want to spend that much time doing this. I spend too much time on the game as is.


FallenDegen

How do you find out other peoples payouts?


MAW-Kane

😂😂😂


ThundersteelBroke

So you want to take your group of isolated losers and form a 4-5 person loser troupe? Much better.


dm051973

Yep. 1 loser is easy to beat. 5 losers is much harder. It is easy to hit one person back. It is a lot harder when they chain you from 10-30 before you can get a battle in. Again this is a losers game with the big winner being CG. And while it might be fun for a week or two, it will get old in a hurry. Who really wants to spend 2 hours/day doing squad arena.


partboozie

Someone from MAW responded to this post but immediately deleted it: [https://imgur.com/a/QwsgKvM](https://imgur.com/a/QwsgKvM) I refuse to believe everyone in MAW is like this. I'm hoping there are some compassionate people who can talk to these guys.


ImaSmakya

It is sad when you see shard chat stories like this. Unfortunately, there are shards in this game that are controlled by petulant little children whose lives suck so bad that doing this sorta shit is what brings joy and meaning to their lives.


the_chris_yo

That guy is a douchebag. MAW can eat a dick. Continue to be a pain in the ass. Eventually someone will get tired of having to fight for their spot every day when you’re beating them every day and locking the spot. Happened to me for 4 years and I broke the glass ceiling eventually.


St3vion

The guy from my fleet shard from maw is like this too... I guess if you spend so much on the game you feel #1 every day is your birthright.


FallenDegen

I actually find it quite amusing that there are so many presumably grown ass dudes out there that care this much about a fake thing. Pathetic power trip, their real lives probably suck 🤣🤣


Rider_Dom

You're probably right. This is likely the only setting in their lives, where they have any control over anything. God forbid people like that become cops.


Doc__Bo

They are literally fucking mobile gamers who take themselves too serious, it’s so pathetic lmao


ArynTheros

Sadly MAW is a cesspool of real shitty human beings...


MAW-Kane

I didn’t delete it. Answers still the same.


Breete

Haha imagine basing your entire personality in a mobile game guild so much that your reddit name is literally the name of the guild, lol big whale small pp


HinduHamma

Just how tiny is your pp?


jack121013

Dude, be nice. He hasnt seen that thing in years.


wookietownGlobetrot

You know there are people trying to enjoy their lives on the other end of these pseudonymous accounts. Right? Calling someone a cry baby and threatening them is excellent. I presume you're in investment banking? Or do you just get bullied a lot and want to try to even it out by bullying someone else?


YellsAboutMakingGifs

He's prob poor tbh.


the_chris_yo

I’m sure their in game name is KΔNE. Top MAW guild. Great group of guys 😂. All spending ridiculous amounts of money.


IG-89

looks like a troll account


the_chris_yo

Probably is a troll and a pathetic excuse for a person


ThundersteelBroke

No you


Brewboo

I hope life gets better for you because if that’s how you really are that’s pretty pathetic and sad.


the_chris_yo

You’re a pathetic excuse for a player.


trojku

serious, what a bunch of fuckin trash babies


ThundersteelBroke

No you're a towel


slickrickCP

Just let her in.. Farrrk


LeoZare22

Yo why don't you take number 1 in that shard big boy? Seems like you're not allowed to go higher than 2nd🤭


Rider_Dom

That MAW alliance seems like a bunch of really nice people :)


Gaburiasu

I had similar story with mine. We gently tried to ask them about PO to not disturb the others but all we got in exchange were some russian insults. At least I got my spot at fleet arena since I blocked #1 spot and they've learned not to bother me. 400 crystals from fleet is enough for me. But yeah these exclusive shard chats are something that we should reform because its competition not Mickey mouse club.


partboozie

I spit out a little bit of my drink at the Mickey Mouse club. 🤣 That’s the whole thing. Like there’s no reason for any of this. It’s all arbitrary stuff made up by a group and it could be fixed in a second if only cooler heads prevailed. It’s like why they have to be like that? Isn’t the game enough?


fynn34

I genuinely have no idea what any of this is because I’m only just starting to break the top 100, not top 10. So basically the top people in shards coordinate payouts?


AJHvibes

Yea. And most of these chats are just folks working together to max rewards. Many will reach out to players who start to show up in top 50 so they can join in on the coordinating. But a few are super exclusive, and you ask to join and instead of letting you work with them, they start to target you. Sad stuff.


fynn34

That’s pretty toxic. That’s a way to kill a game community.


Rider_Dom

Mostly, shard chats are the opposite of toxic and actually work to everyone's benefit. For the most part, it ensures that you DO NOT get bumped down an hour before your payout. Shard chats literally have everyone's payouts listed, so if you decide to climb earlier, you can check the list and AVOID hitting people who's payouts are coming up. The only toxicity I've seen in a shard chat is when a member of the chat would complain that THEY are being consistently targeted and blocked at their payout time by someone NOT in the chat (and who refuses to join the chat). The shard chat I'm in even has a fucking "Funni meems" channel, where members just post stupid Star Wars memes. It's as friendly and welcoming as it can get.


ThundersteelBroke

False


jack121013

What is false? Elaborate.


the_chris_yo

He won’t. He’s another MAW fuck head trying to troll


TheComebackKid717

Shard chats are obnoxious. And there are an unfortunate number of MAW in this one. At the end of the day if you can stay at #20 or so that's not bad at all. Keep knocking em down and maybe try reaching out to others that may eventually lighten up.


partboozie

This was exactly what I told him at first. But over time they ended up getting more aggressive and now we are here.


Megamind1986

I had a similar experience. Eventually I gave up and stopped climbing. Not worth the headache… I was considering changing my screen name after they’ve forgotten about me and trying again.


Whitchit1

Unfortunately they probably have your ally code listed as an enemy and changing your name won’t work


Megamind1986

Ah bummer. Didn’t consider that.


Assphixia

Yeah if they are using anything like Rotbot for their shard discord, it tracks by ally code. So changing name in game will automatically change in their bot information.


ThundersteelBroke

Seems like one needs to gitgud


Adnw66

Not always. Sometimes they are just a way for everyone to maximize their crystals


danbarrett92

What a surprise, a shard chat with a bunch of Maw members not interested in non whales joining their little club.


Brewboo

I’ve got maw guys on my shard and they are pretty laid back. It’s not the guild that makes the ones on your shard an asshole. It’s being an asshole that makes them one.


RIPJsedious

Did you used to be on a shard with Jijja who quit awhile back? If so…this is my return to the game lol


fatherjohnmilfy

people that take the game this seriously are clowns. it’s all arbitrary numbers that have no application in real life unless you’re a content creator lol there’s no need to bully people on a mobile game


mranthr0pic

They really need to detoxify arena. It’s ridiculous how many people gatekeep in arena. I’d spend a few bucks on refreshes and try to start locking them out too. Keep a spreadsheet of their payout times and focus harass them as they start climbing. Let the fights timeout too so they don’t know for sure who it was.


mistereousone

I usually make myself a huge pain. Not against everyone, but target one or two and make their payout harder then they usually communicate to others hey I need him to ease up on me, so let him through.


IG-89

what a bunch of losers


Breete

Not only the game. Have you seen some of the comments in this thread? It feels toxic as fuck


AvinashZohsaheur

Oh, there's a lot of MAW/MC in that shard that will do anything to keep their spots nice and tight at the top. Some others have been allowed in, but the RIP JSedious account has never been able to join. She sat in the 20s most of the time and even then was locked and knocked way back because they think it's fun and entertaining. She was in my guild for several years. She tried being reasonable. She tried contacting those in the shard to play nice and make sure not to hit anyone in the shard chat .... but these guys are vicious egomaniacs that don't care about anyone but their little MAW/MC group and lock everyone else from their payout, even if no one was sharing the same PO time. If JSedious became a pain and annoying on the way to her payout, then it will get worse from this shard - locked and pushed so far back she wouldn't see the light of day. It's not the first time they've done this and it's not the only shard where they try to rule with an iron fist.


RIPJsedious

Hey folks! Just want to weigh in a little bit here. What they’re doing is pretty obnoxious, but I’m a big boy and can deal. Here’s what I would really like to call attention to. This account is a memorial account as the woman originally playing it passed away from cancer. So basically, MC and MAW dudes decided to bully a woman in arena as she was dying from cancer. Exactly the opposite of the Mini saga. If you’re going to be outraged at anything, be outraged at THAT. Make sure that’s the image of those guilds that is remembered, whenever anyone reaches out to say hello or puts up a recruitment post. TLDR: MAW and MC bully woman dying of cancer to protect an open payout


Jusuf_Nurkic

Ok I don’t like what they’re doing but do they even know the backstory of the account? Seems extremely harsh to suggest these guilds as a whole are bullying women dying of cancer


RIPJsedious

Fair point; it was a bit over dramatic. It seems they know some of the backstory though based on a seeming member’s comment though. So maybe they know part of it but not all?


Empire_Relic

I have years of the communication saved with the real jsedious sir if you would like to see, and it doesn’t fit the narrative you have presented.


TotenTeufel

Let me get this right, MΔW/MC is a bunch of assholes because they won’t let an account that once belong to a woman that died of cancer climb and the woman or son is no longer running the account? Seems legit.


MAW-Kane

Husband too supposedly.


thellllvirtuoso

Cake day: June 29 2021. You literally created your account today just to be toxic. Typical


TotenTeufel

What have we become? Someone obtains an account without putting any of the work in, and now they supposed to just be given the keys to the kingdom. I’m not even in the shard, and I think it’s bs.


ImSoBasic

Yeah, nobody in maw has ever bought an account. I totally believe that.


Heavy_Lock_1141

For the record when she was playing everyday while she was with wolfpack a few years back she was invited to join the shard chat and MC for that matter and she respectfully declined. She **WAS** allowed to get her PO everyday (she was a very nice person). Then her son or someone related took over and continued for a while but then the account just stop and was in the bottom ranks for a while. Now recently this account was apparently sold? (against the TOC according to EA, but that's a different issue) and now the new person running it automatically assumes they get all the perks without earning it? LOL. there's are about 20+ in the chat chat and some have the same payout and most have been around a lot longer (most are day 1 of the shard) then this new owner. All I can say is what we all say in this game- ***"whale harder and Git Gud"***


partboozie

He can climb to 1. That's not the issue. There's no whaling or strategy you can use against a group of people making a concerted effort to block you from moving. Could you guys please just let them in now? He's been at it for months, messaging people, asking what he has to do. He's willing to follow all the rules. Would you please consider it?


Rudollis

Has he tried changing payout to a less busy time? That would be the first thing to look into, if you are active during the shards most active payout timeslot, you’re bound to hit more resistance. The more you bang your head against them the less likely they will let you in, you’re just making enemies. At a time where everyone can beat everyone there is no way to force your way into a shard chat by being obnoxious (if ever there was). For a collective you are not a problem but just a troublemaker. I also don‘t for the life of me understand how the history of a traded account has anything to do with arena climbs.


MAW-Kane

Nope


partboozie

Who hurt you?


the_chris_yo

So I have a story about accounts changing hands/being sold. CG doesn’t care. It happens quite a bit. Have several in my shard who have bought/sold/given away accounts. Nothing has been done to them as they have all been reported.


RIPJsedious

No money has changed hands; the son still has access to the account. I’ve tried to approach several folks peaceably to ask what conditions even exist to be a member, or even neutral. One person said there was no interest; the other said they would check and then unfriended me on Discord, and now attacks back whenever possible. Frankly I don’t expect to get in at this point and have just been content with top 20 for the time being. It is what it is


Heavy_Lock_1141

I dont manage the chat, I just been in it a long time. I can tell you that there about 13 others NOT in the chat in the top 30 that have the same PO as you (some not as active everyday), with about 3 who are. So not everyone hitting you is most likely in the chat, but some prob are to move for the chat mates. Also If you want to join MAW or MC that would def help in getting you in the chat.. think about it


RIPJsedious

That’s fair. Someone I had talked to told me no shared payouts; but obviously it’s a bit of a different story. There definitely are a couple of non-chat folks like Irishdogmeowz who hit me on occasion; those are obvious. But there are also a number who are obviously in the chat and have the arena bot, such that you get instantly battled back every time you do a battle (you can obviously tell by the guilds they’re in). If I’m lucky enough to slip into top 5 (which I rarely bother with anymore), someone is usually waiting such that I can’t even do the instant 50 refresh to double hop spots, and then will lock for the full 5 minutes. (I ran another chat for years so I know the tricks) Part of the condition of getting to play the account is that it’s a memorial account and stays where it is…so no options there unfortunately. I definitely appreciate getting to have a level-headed conversation about it. I’m sure some in the chat are totally normal and cool; I can say though that a number of MAW and MC players are intentionally blocking, and doing it to others as well (I’ve watched it as someone does an instant refresh just to bounce two of us down as we are trying to climb so we don’t hit top 10). It’s good to know there are normal folks there as well though 🙂


UncertainSerenity

What are they assuming? They have the ability to climb to rank 1. The payout is open. The are willing to play nice. Who the fuck cares how they got the account Stop being such a mafia about a mobile game and stop bullying people who are not prt of your “exclusive club”. It’s a fucking game.


Funny-Offer841

Yikes. Such assholes. This has nothing to do with Star Wars anymore. I wish CG had a way to deal with this, but why should you act against the moneygivers, even if they were utter assholes with probably a miserable life


jack121013

Well shard chats that arent toxic like this bullshit, actually make cg give away more crystals lol.


ThundersteelBroke

Where they make more money to spend more to allow you to enjoy the game. Cuz, logic.


darth_daleoton

I have also fallen victim of my shard’s ring leaders. They refuse to allow anyone into their little circle, and the minute you try making some ground, they screw you. Wish CG would restrict people making arena a monopoly.


partboozie

Yeah I’m not sure what they could do against it but I do think it’s in their best interests to do something. If I fought my way up in a shard only to find out I was going to be permanently locked out I’d quit. If you don’t get crystals you don’t grow your account and then you won’t spend, either. It’s not good for the health of the game.


Heavy_Lock_1141

you can always get crystals , you just have to spend real money. so what is the incentive for CG to change how the arenas works for payouts


nakalas_the_great

I don’t get it, what’s happening


ArynTheros

Guys from M∆M being absolute children and disgusting pile of shit... As always...


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the_chris_yo

You sound like someone that needs to get punched in the mouth. Guess being a bully only requires a credit card nowadays. Go spend more money on your account so you don’t get kicked from your guild.


darthrevan47

Wow you really are spiteful person aren’t you and you want to talk about working for it? When all you did was open your wallet? Unbelievable


ThundersteelBroke

I'M COMING FOR YOU KΔNE!!


ThundersteelBroke

WHERE IS MY BABY DADDY


ingoio256

They are still trying to figure out the difference between an "A" and a "Delta", when they manage they will get back at you. Don't hold your breath


Heavy_Lock_1141

you know this person is not the first and wont be the last with this issue and CG is cool with it as it happens on all shards.. but here's 91 pages of shard history for you to read [https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/15546/sorry-phipps/p1](https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/15546/sorry-phipps/p1)


Empire_Relic

I can attest, this is the history and formation of the shard and guild in question. Few guilds have such a documented history of their beginnings, and it was a guild from the first day of guilds.


JTMc48

Some shard chats are fine and civil, some are like a modern mafia.


R4MSAY13

I not very established my arena shard and are a newer player. So could somebody tell me what all this means?


BlequeSaws

A bunch of neckbeard whales playing keep away with somebody to stop them from getting to the top of the shard cuz they aren't in their gay little club so they feel like they have some kind of power and control in their lives lmao. I played a mobile game a few years ago with groups like this where everyone used line app and it was full of the most smug pathetic neckbeards, virgins, and retirees that play at high school cliques and had literally nothing else going on in their lives that would talk and gossip and gloat in the Line chat 18 hours out of the day everyday. Like Charlie said in its always sunny, "IM DOING GOOD IN THE GAME SO IM DOING GOOD IN LIFE!"


Baconslayer1

When you get to the top of arena your rewards are no longer in sections of 100-200, 200-500, etc. They're 5 to 10 or at the very top, individual payouts. So to keep people getting the top payouts they coordinate. Changing your reset times changes your payout time for arena, so you get an empty slot, then when it's your hour the people above you change teams if they need to do you can take #1 for an hour to get the best rewards. Unfortunately some arena shards are full of jerks who won't even attempt to work with someone who's not in their little group and purposely target you to knock you out of even the top 10 or 20 slots right before your rewards.


R4MSAY13

That’s awful


darthrevan47

Other players that spend money like to gatekeep game rewards from other players because they think they are entitled to the top or something just because they pay. That’s about the gist of it


mitth_raw_nuruodo1

Okay, I’m super confused. What even is happening?? I’m relatively new to the game so not great with the acronyms. If someone would take a minute to explain, I’d really appreciate it!! I’m only lvl 75, so I don’t really have experience with a lot of the higher lvl stuff.


FwoxySW

A bunch of people are blocking someone from getting their Payout. For seemingly no reason.


mitth_raw_nuruodo1

Okay….what payout? Sorry, like I said, I’m pretty fresh.


Baconslayer1

When you get to the top of arena your rewards are no longer in sections of 100-200, 200-500, etc. They're 5 to 10 or at the very top, individual payouts. So to keep people getting the top payouts they coordinate. Changing your reset times changes your payout time for arena, so you get an empty slot, then when it's your hour the people above you change teams if they need to do you can take #1 for an hour to get the best rewards. Unfortunately some arena shards are full of jerks who won't even attempt to work with someone who's not in their little group and purposely target you to knock you out of even the top 10 or 20 slots right before your rewards.


lunar999

A shard refers to the group of people you're paired with that make up your squad arena and fleet arena opponents. I believe a squad shard is 20000 players and fleet is 1000 players (could be wrong though) who joined at the same time, so you're all at about the same level of (potential) progression. The payout referred to is the reward for being a certain rank in either of those arenas. It's common courtesy, when you reach the top ranks of an arena, to get in contact with the other players in your shard and collaborate with them to ensure that you're not all constantly stealing the top spot from each other (at those ranks, holding the top spot is less about having the best team and more about how much people challenge you). This way everyone gets nice balanced rewards without a whole lot of stress or having to pay constant attention to their leadership position to make sure it doesn't get yanked from under them at the last moment. It also encourages friendliness between players and helping build a nice community, which is always positive. Unfortunately in some shards it goes the other way, they form a mafia - a group of players who all lock up the top spots and refuse to let anyone else come in. Anyone tries to grab a top spot, every member of the mafia jumps on top of them and beats them back down. It seems the situation described here is one of those.


mitth_raw_nuruodo1

Wow! That is super helpful, and makes sense ton of sense!! That is a sad situation however. I wish people would just be nice already! Thank you for taking the time to explain, I really appreciate it.


PrinceHarming

Be cool and try to find someone to empathize with you. Have at least two GLs to prove you can get to the top on your own without help. Be willing to take a lower spot, 2nd or 3rd until you get in good and someone offers to rotate with you.


RIPJsedious

Hey there! Five GLs with over 8M GP. I offered something similar to one chat member who initially responded on Discord. That person said they would check in with the chat. That person then unfriended me, and also targets me in arena. There’s also no one with the 1 spot in the chat Edit: made it to the top many times. Problem is I get intentionally blocked now…


NeedACold1

I know someone who is in this shard and is also in that chat. From what I hear, you are screwed. The MAW guys don't even want to be pushed from the top 5, at any point. I won't say that all MAW members are the same, but the ones at the top of that shard at asshats.


RIPJsedious

Yeah I’ve noticed the same three up there at all times. Such is the life, eh?


MAW-Kane

Climb and bump me then. I’m bored.


trojku

lol idiot


L-Guy_21

It’s called you ignore them and climb anyway. Make them understand what you’re capable of in the shard


iChase666

This is why I strongly believe they should shuffle the shards often. I would say every time a new GAC rolls around they should shuffle the shards. It’s so stupid.


Megamind1986

Shard chats suck balls. Wish there was a realistic way to get rid of them.


Adnw66

Not all of them do. Some are actually really chill and let anyone in that wants to join


Megamind1986

But unfortunately, we can’t select our shard. We’re stuck with whatever group of tyrants we end up with. I’d love to join a chill shard chat.


[deleted]

It kind of defeats the purpose of that game mode and is just an overall negative aspect of the game.


7even-

That’s just not true. Well, it may be for toxic shards like this one, but for every bad shard There’s a great one. I forget who said it, but someone on this subreddit once said “it’s not us vs each other, it’s us vs CG”


Bahlore

Absolutely correct. I've said it many times. You can choose your friends, you can choose your guild, but shard mates are forever. The REASON shard chats were even formed is people got tired of sniping each other and having to lock for 10-15m before payout; if you wanted to keep your spot. People have better things to do than sit watching their phone to see if they get hit, locking, spending crystals. Much easier to get along rotate and respect one another's time.


Evenmoardakka

Exhibit number 294712057123 of why shard mafias are a cancer and should be considered a violation and be bannable.


bryanrut

My best advice for trying to get into a shard chat is to not try and bum rush the top spots around your PO. In my shard chat that tends to put a bullseye on your back. My suggestion is to get into contact with someone or a couple people that are around your PO that is in the shard chat. Ask them who to avoid so you don't step on toes and if you can take 20th place during your PO hour. Then after a week or two of taking 20th reach out again and see if you can join. If someone plays nice for awhile and doesn't step on toes we generally tend to let them in.


partboozie

Your suggestion is what my friend tried. I think he's msg'd about half a dozen people. I have another screenshot where they leave the chat when he asks. The account isn't new to the top 50, either. This has been going on for years, back to the original owner they wouldn't let in.


bryanrut

Sorry to hear that, I don't know what to tell you then. Just trying to help with what's worked in our chat. Good luck in your endeavor.


wumbopower

I’m stomping the shit out of all your toes.


[deleted]

But you get why this shouldn't be necessary right? This isn't how you're supposed to play this mode.


bryanrut

I completely understand and agree. Just trying to offer some advice that has worked for me and others.


[deleted]

That's fair enough


dm051973

Arenas aren't PvP. They are players versus CG and the only reasonable way to play is by forming a shard chats. The problem is when people join and stay in crappy chats instead of kicking the toxic people out.


darthrevan47

What does that even mean? Not one player is under any obligation to reach out to you or any other players in the top. If they want to “bum rush the top spots” they are allowed to do so. It’s not up to you who can get rewards and who can’t and I don’t understand why other players think it’s okay for other players to gatekeep for no reason. So what if someone takes your spot.


bryanrut

This isn't even my shard. The person asked for advice and I tried to give some that worked for me and some other people. I understand that shard chats suck and shouldn't be a part of the game, but they are and OP asked a question.


Elyahu41

We need to do something about shard chats


TotenTeufel

So if I’m reading this correctly, you’re the third owner of an account in a day 1 shard and you feel slighted by original day 1 owners not letting you into their shard. Am I right so far? If so, let me say, first you’re in violation of CG rules. Blasting it on here, probably not the smartest thing to do. If you think CG doesn’t enforce the rules, you’d be sadly mistaken. [A MΔW asshole getting banned for operating an account he didn’t create. ](https://youtu.be/sPMHglZTMdw) The previous owners bear no relevance at all, because they no longer participate, no matter the reason. What work did you put into the account? Are you a day 1 player for that account or are you a Johnny come lately that just bought an account and now thinks he deserves to be included with guys that have built their accounts over years?


UncertainSerenity

And who the fuck cares? It’s an account. If they get banned from how they got it that’s one thing. But buying an account is the exact same as whaling on characters in arena. One is not “more pure” then the other


ImSoBasic

I bet most of those day-one maw dudes also use hotutils, which is also a tos violation. Meanwhile, lots of other day-one players have put in the work and do things manually like the tos requires.


partboozie

I don’t mean any disrespect but take a moment to think about what you really mean by “earn it.” Where did CG say you had to do this? Where did the community agree to this as a standard? Nowhere. If you can make it to the top you’ve earned it! And even if we’re going by this standard my buddy has been at it for months trying to get people to let him in. He went through the arbitrary hoops they set out and they still didn’t give him a chance. He shouldn’t even have to.


TotenTeufel

Earn it as in build the account from nothing. Here’s the line that applies from the user agreement “Sell, buy, trade or otherwise transfer or offer to transfer your EA Account, any personal access to EA Services, or any EA Content associated with your EA Account, including EA Virtual Currency and other Entitlements, either within an EA Service or on a third-party website, or in connection with any out-of-game transaction, unless expressly authorized by EA.”


the_chris_yo

It. Doesn’t. Matter. Have several accounts in my shard that have changed hands multiple times and guess what? They are still around and haven’t been banned even though it can be proven that the account changed hands.


TotenTeufel

Just because CG doesn’t actively check, it is still a violation of the ToS. When people get caught, they do ban accounts. I posted a vid of it


the_chris_yo

Everyone has seen the boo hoo video anhald did. He deserved to get the ban hammer on the account. The ones I see in my shard are still there. Been reported multiple times to CG and they haven’t done anything about it. Just stating my experiences with CG and their picking and choosing which accounts they want to ban.


partboozie

I read it start to finish and I didn’t see anything about arena. Is there a separate clause asking players to independently police this and form groups to decide who’s worthy of a payout? Seems like something they’d want to define. I don’t see the correlation in your argument.


TotenTeufel

The line I posted refers to the entirety of the account. It flat out bans, selling, buying or transferring accounts. You as you have repeatedly admitted are not the “owner” of the account because she passed. That means you either bought the account or a secondary person transferred the account to you. Meaning, you’re violating the user agreement. As AnhaldT101 can attest, CG will ban the account for that. I mean you can always ask for clarification from CG, if you think I’m wrong.


partboozie

You did read the part where I said I was doing this for a friend right?


TotenTeufel

Oh, I’m sorry, I must have missed that exception in the ToS. Oh wait, it’s not in there.


partboozie

I mean you advising me on what I should do with an account I don’t own doesn’t make any sense…I’m not here for TOS. I’m here to talk arena bullying and ending that nonsense. People trying to come together. Are you into it!?


TotenTeufel

You posted on here, that MΔW/MC are a bunch of assholes because they don’t let you join an arena shard for an account you didn’t build. You didn’t put the time/money/effort or whatever that they did to build not only a top tier account, but a top tier guild. So please explain how exactly they’re keeping you down and are bullies? Because I’m not seeing it. I’m seeing someone making a fuss because he purchased an account and feels entitled.


partboozie

I never said MAW is a bunch of assholes. Nowhere. Im saying people who do this bullying shouldn’t and we should try to stop doing this to each other in game. A lot of people have drawn conclusions that MAW sucks from this post but surly that can’t be true. Both you and I know not all people are like that. So I don’t think that about MAW. Besides, our Supreme Leader Ahnald is in MAW. He’s a good guy!


captainp77

The argument is that the butthurt individual is NOT the original owner of the account. Therefore it is a violation of TOS(Terms of Service) that you agree to when you start playing this game for them to be playing this account. Whether it was bought or given to them it’s not their account so CG has the right to ban it indefinitely. Ask Ahnaldt101 about that lol


BlequeSaws

Lmao imagine whaling on a mobile game *and* being such a fuckin nerd that it dominates your life to the point of smirking down at people like you spending tens of thousands on pixels is actually impressive and not just incredibly sad and pathetic Fuckin mobile game cliques full of unfulfilled boomers trying to relive high school just like on FFaNE hahahaha


captainp77

Some people have a life and a mobile game works for them due to the portability. Kind of hard to take your PS5 with you everywhere. You have no clue what any of these people’s lives are like or what they do for a living. Must be nice to be the smug FTP looking down on the very people who pay for the game that you play. If isn’t wasn’t for whales there would be no game.


BlequeSaws

Whatever you say there bud enjoy the 5-6 figure pixels lmfao


rzslm

I cant imagine how much of a loser you have to be that you go out of your way to annoy people on a mobile game of all things. It’s just sad


darthrevan47

I’ve honestly never understood the dynamic of “shard chats” and who can do what when. I wish people would just play the game and not care about other payouts because why should you care? What are the top players really going to do if you get the payout before them and wasn’t a part of the shard chat? Stop trying to gatekeep rewards it’s really a very easy thing to do.


JR-Snow

That is not how it is meant to be; shard chats aren’t meant to be about excluding or persecuting people but allowing everyone to maximising their chances of getting maximum rewards. I’m not high enough to be in my arena shard chat but I am in my fleet shard chat and there we just have everyone’s times listed and avoid knocking people down who are about getting their payouts. I went from struggling to get into the top 20, to regularly getting first. No one is a dick or whines and we always invite people in if needed.


LoveEveryday

As someone who is in MAW and who helps run my shard chat, we aren’t all like this. Try not to single out a guild/alliance of hundreds, because a bad experience with a few. I’m sorry this happened, but some shard chats are just like that. It sucks sometimes.


Empire_Relic

Uhhhh, another cancer story. I mean, at what point do we stop believing these.


AvinashZohsaheur

It's comments like this that put your MAW/MC community in a worse light than it already is


Empire_Relic

What do you mean, I’m not in MAW/MC.


Batchjack

I don’t see a problem? Why do people think they should just be let to the top? It’s one of the few PvP aspects of the game so it should be a fight for the top


Crazygone510

That is the right answer.


Darth_Tanto

I was told by my shard (old 2016) that I wasn't allowed in their chat because my GP wasn't high enough because I took a 2.5 year break


captainp77

That’s more than likely because you are behind in the metas and they don’t want to switch out for you to climb. My chat is pretty chill but we are a day one shard. You’ve got to be able to climb on your own and prove that you can stay up there to get in. We’ve let in a few guys who are low GP and only have 1 GL but they also reached out over a month before unlock to see what they could do to not snipe people out of payouts.


Darth_Tanto

I have a Relic 8 SLKR and I consistently climb to #1 or top 15 with nobody switching out for me. They said it was because they all have 9M+ and Im only 3.5M. I did reach out before I initially started climbing, I found one guy who was nice about it but they still said I didn't meet their requirements


UncertainSerenity

Just keep being annoying and they will eventually let you in unless it’s a shard like this one being discussed