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Monster hunter vs Godzilla

Monster hunter vs Godzilla

DrStarDream

Assuming its monsterverse godzilla. It really depends on if there is prep, a whole team assisting, siege weapons, palicos, knowledge on godzilla, a custom map and gear choice. If its the normal hunt circumstances then godzilla really has a 10/10 1v4 team wipe If we allows the situation in the first paragraph to happen then the hunters could actually have a decent 6/10 chance, lets go in depth for it The best possible map would be a place without abundant water with a long cliff side, something like the grand canyon for example, where the hunters could install many siege weapons, hidden bases, an inner ants nest system of caves to allow for quick movement and ample resources for healing, buffing and weapon mantainance, it would be a scenario like the lao shan lung hunt but way more advanced The guild would need a year or so to prepare an elaborate area like this but its really necessary to make it big since godzilla could at any moment destroy large portions of the cliff, thats why there is a need for a long cliff side, as battle goes, the map gets destroyed As for siege weapons, I think the best option would be balistas and and many hidden dragonators on the ground, on the cliff sides basically making so godzilla can get stabbed at multiple angles at any moment, these dragonators and arrows would be coated in dragon element, like in the legends of the guild movie where they made dragon infused dragonator, since dragon element can hinder the flow of energy on creatures, meaning that in large quantities dragon element could makes godzillas regen slower and make it so it has to spend more energy to use its atomic breath, no explosives or big cannons since big G will just absorb them, dragon element is the wat to go, would be also cool to have some reflective crystalline structures all over the place to disperse the power of the atomic breath since we know mirror like materials can reflect the atomic breath(thanks kong), oh and of course, the hunter will have wire bugs and some wingdrakes around the base too The hunters need palicos to manage weapons, give support and heal, those will be healing palicos with many heal horn moves since most godzilla attacks could leave the hunters nearly dead, these palicos will be what keeps the hunters alive and load weapons too As for gear, we would need 4 hunters, all equipping fire resistant armor that has good defensive and skills to reduce damage, also sprinkle some skills that boost dragon element, valstrax armor could actually help a lot because of the dragon heart skill, thos maybe it would be better as a talisman I think the best weapons for the 4 hunters would be a charge blade and great sword to break parts and do big damage, a bow to snipe parts and deal debuffs and an insect glaive to do maneuvers and distract, some things that the hunters could very much do is put reflective crystals and metals on shields to allow them a small chance to block and survive an atomic breath, since hunters have wire bugs and they cpuld easily move around climb surfaces to dodge huge swipes too So if the hunters have some knowledge on godzilla they know that they should break the back plates, use binder shots and cut the tail, and that they should make sure they are applying as much elder seal and making as much injuries with the dragonators and balistas as possible so that godzilla gets more and more tired Honeslty if everything plays right and they get lucky they could at most 6/10 godzilla, honestly, godzilla wouldnt even fight to the death, he is not dumb, this strategy would at least make the hunter repel godzilla, which in most cases in monster hunter already counts as a win in sieges So under the best scenario hunters kill godzilla 5/10 or repel godzilla 8/10 which averages out on a good 6/10 win chance Gozilla has the most advantage in all scenarios but pushing those low chances is what expert hunters should do anyways


rocer5ya

Only if they're Japanese. Then yes easily.


Toxitoxi

Japanese *Roman Hunters*. Accept no substitutes.


DeerApprehensive5405

Most versions of Godzilla are so durable that not even the Almighty Level Cluster from a rampage HBG can get a reaction out of them. That said, if we are talking 1998, They eventually kill him with Mid diff assuming they heard him to that huge fortress where you fight Lao.


Dreaddormammu64

Depends on which Godzilla


JustAnArtist1221

No weapon would be able to penetrate his hide enough to wound him, assuming they're only using their own weapons and those weapons could harm him. Jhen Mohran can blast through towns and needs a lot of investment just to get it to slow down enough to fight. Godzilla could literally do a short sprint and cause way more damage.


DrStarDream

Actually it depends. Lvl 1 starter gear made of rocks, steel, iron or some basic bones that are slightly superior to steel? Not doing a scratch on big G, any kaiju or even apex predator lvl large monsters from MH Maxed out gear made of g rank super metals that many times superior to super metals that are many times superior to steel, super monster bones, infused with the elemental powers of different monsters and combined with a super metal and monster part alloy that surpasses any type or earth material? Yes thats harming any titan no contest, dragonators are as lethal(if not more) as mothras stinger Also, they could use the weapons to break the back plates which would massively hinder godzilla, he would become more tired, move slower and eventually spend more energy than it consumes, couple with the thousands of cuts that would be spending energy to regenerate and godzilla would die of starvation eventually Hunters would need a lot of prep for that but they can harm godzilla


JustAnArtist1221

This is assuming a lot. These would still still be shallow cuts. And even then, this is all assuming Godzilla just stands there. Godzilla running would be an impossible target. Most heat based weapons would likely be absorbed. Even if they were harming him with any other elemental weapon, he could trample them by accident on his way back into the water, which helps him regenerate. And I highly doubt they could break the back plates. Nukes and the oxygen destroyer couldn't break them. The male MUTO couldn't do it. The only thing that has ever done it to our knowledge is a Kong to another Godzilla. And this is, again, assuming a lot. I'm only arguing Monsterverse Godzilla because you mentioned titans. This Godzilla, who isn't even remotely the strongest incarnation, can drill into the hollow Earth casually. His beam would blind hunters, and the sound would stun them. We can argue earplugs would work, but that's not very helpful. If he just rolled on the ground, they'd die.


DrStarDream

>This is assuming a lot. These would still still be shallow cuts. Shallow cuts still need to regenerate. >Godzilla running would be an impossible target. So is a dalamadur running and hunters still manage to climb it and target it >Most heat based weapons would likely be absorbed. There arw other methods. >Even if they were harming him with any other elemental weapon, he could trample them by accident on his way back into the water Wire bug out, and obviously fight him where there isnt plenty of water >And I highly doubt they could break the back plates. Nukes and the oxygen destroyer couldn't break them. The male MUTO couldn't do it. The only thing that has ever done it to our knowledge is a Kong to another Godzilla. Kongs are not as strong as male mutos, they use tools to manage such feats, just like hunter can, in order to break something all you need and stronger material and enough strikes, if hunters keep striking the back plates they will eventually break since their weapons are made of materials that clearly are superior to anything found on earth >And this is, again, assuming a lot. I'm only arguing Monsterverse Godzilla because you mentioned titans. This Godzilla, who isn't even remotely the strongest incarnation "Isnt even remotely" is an exaggeration, monsterverse is one of the strongest, its just that there is a power huge power gap between monsterverse and the ones above it I only mentioned monsterverse godzilla because that is the strongest godzilla the hunters could realistically manage to have a chance and even then it needs to be with optimal conditions and a year of prep time, look at the comment I posted here, it has a big and detailed explanation on it >can drill into the hollow Earth casually Jhen mohran, dalamadur and darhen mohran can casually dig near the core of the earth and they do hang out there during certain phases of their lives, >His beam would blind hunters, and the sound would stun them. We can argue earplugs would work, but that's not very helpful. Earplugs would nullify the noises as long as it isnt a sonic boom, but then they just take damage instead of stun(like akantor or tigrex roars), but they can still dodge sonic booms since g rank hunters sorta need to have hyper sonic reflexes anyways to fight kirin, and dodging sound attacks is possible, as for getting blinded, well hunter only get stunned by bright lights but stun resistance can easily deal with it >If he just rolled on the ground, they'd die. At this point, just read my other comment here, seriously, it has a long explanation and I would even suggest that you should try to contest that comment instead of this one.


JustAnArtist1221

>Shallow cuts still need to regenerate. Irrelevant. He's nuclear powered and these cuts, assuming they would even immediately regenerate, would likely close nearly as fast as they're made. Even if that were the case, or even if they didn't heal, it would be like scratching your back really hard before a boxing match. It's a non-issue. >Wire bug out, and obviously fight him where there isnt plenty of water Godzilla is almost always near water. If he's not, he's near another power source, which is likely close to a body of water anyway. Either way, wire bugging only gets for a few meters. Godzilla can cover multiple city blocks in a couple steps. If he just turned too abruptly, he'd kill an entire squad. >Kongs are not as strong as male mutos, they use tools to manage such feats, just like hunter can, in order to break something all you need and stronger material and enough strikes, if hunters keep striking the back plates they will eventually break since their weapons are made of materials that clearly are superior to anything found on earth At least one Kong was strong enough to fight without a tool to even get the weapons they used later, but that would've been against a weaker member of the Godzilla species. Either way, Godzilla is over 100 meters tall. Hunters aren't getting up his back and hacking through his spine. Again, he can just roll and kill them or plunge them under water. Or charge his dorsal plates. No reason to assume they're not hot as hell. >"Isnt even remotely" is an exaggeration, monsterverse is one of the strongest, its just that there is a power huge power gap between monsterverse and the ones above it Yeah, "isn't even remotely". That's what that means. The power gap between him and the next strongest version is so massive that he might as well not even be among that list. That's like saying Mayweather is among the strongest punchers in all of American media when the things above him are Iron Fist, Superman, etc. Yeah, he might be one of the more powerful ones, but the ones that blow up black holes are, probably, a bit out of his league. >I only mentioned monsterverse godzilla because that is the strongest godzilla the hunters could realistically manage to have a chance and even then it needs to be with optimal conditions and a year of prep time, look at the comment I posted here, it has a big and detailed explanation on it And they wouldn't be able to hurt him at all. Even with the most optimal conditions, Godzilla dwarfs the contraptions they use to fight elder dragons by a lot. He could just step on them. In fact, he would actively pursue anything with an energy signature and destroy it first. So their explosives and dragon weapons are out of there. >Jhen mohran, dalamadur and darhen mohran can casually dig near the core of the earth and they do hang out there during certain phases of their lives, Which is why hunters never try to block them when they're doing the thing they drills through the Earth. Godzilla would snipe them. >Earplugs would nullify the noises as long as it isnt a sonic boom, but then they just take damage instead of stun(like akantor or tigrex roars), but they can still dodge sonic booms since g rank hunters sorta need to have hyper sonic reflexes anyways to fight kirin, and dodging sound attacks is possible, as for getting blinded, well hunter only get stunned by bright lights but stun resistance can easily deal with it Outside of gameplay mechanics, Godzilla would be louder than anything they'd ever fought. And according to the strategy you're implying, they wouldn't be able to dodge his roar since they'd be 300 feet off the ground. The amount of time for them to get out of range wouldn't be quick enough.


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100 meters is the length of approximately 437.45 'Wooden Rice Paddle Versatile Serving Spoons' laid lengthwise.


JustAnArtist1221

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DrStarDream

>Irrelevant. He's nuclear powered and these cuts, assuming they would even immediately regenerate, would likely close nearly as fast as they're made. Even if that were the case, or even if they didn't heal, it would be like scratching your back really hard before a boxing match. It's a non-issue. You missed the point, regeneration costs energy and at some point there will be no energy left, couple with the broken back plates that will make him lose massive reserves of energy and it will eventually run out pretty fast >Godzilla is almost always near water. If he's not, he's near another power source, which is likely close to a body of water anyway. Either way, wire bugging only gets for a few meters. Godzilla can cover multiple city blocks in a couple steps. If he just turned too abruptly, he'd kill an entire squad. Missed point again, the hunters with prep would obviously fight godzilla in a place where there isnt a sea coast, its not like godzilla refuses to go to places where he doesnt have an always ready power source, also if you only getting "a few meters" from wire bug, you are using it wrong, also no way the hunters are staying near godzillas feet, thats dumb, no vitals or weakpoints >At least one Kong was strong enough to fight without a tool to even get the weapons they used later, Assuming hunters would fight unnarmed, do you even play monster hunter? All they need is some end game gear and they are set in terms of weapons that can harm godzilla >Either way, Godzilla is over 100 meters tall. Hunters aren't getting up his back and hacking through his spine. Again, he can just roll and kill them or plunge them under water. Or charge his dorsal plates. No reason to assume they're not hot as hell. Dude, hunters have climbed creatures bigger than godzilla, zora magdaros, jhen mohran, dalamadur, sha dalamadur, lao shan lung etc. Rolling is only effective is the hunter are grounded, if they are on godzilla they easily wire bug out or call wing drakes too, like thy do with zora magdaros, also, if hunters can dip in lava or stand near teostra who turns glass into sand by sheer presence with only low burn damage, they can tank the heat of standing on godzilla specially since its not burning mode which big g needs help to turn into >And they wouldn't be able to hurt him at all. Even with the most optimal conditions, Godzilla dwarfs the contraptions they use to fight elder dragons by a lot. He could just step on them. In fact, he would actively pursue anything with an energy signature and destroy it first. So their explosives and dragon weapons are out of there. Did ypu read my comment? The hunters wont use explosives, also yes he could step but they can set dragonators anywhere at any angles, in walls cealings, ground and they can hide, it doesnt matter since they can also make a bunch of disposable dragonators and keep using them, also these siege weapons can take a lot of damage, its not hard to set up dragonators that are hundreds of yrs old even the broken ones that were lost in wars and spent centuries under the sea, crushed by ruble or covered in acid and molten by fatalis flames, also what energy signature? they use steam to work, as for hunter weapons and gear? Is godzilla really detecting bioenergy from whole different verse? Heck we dont even know if the gear emits bioenergy since they get fused with metals and lose some biological factors >Yeah, "isn't even remotely". That's what that means. The power gap between him and the next strongest version is so massive that he might as well not even be among that list. That's like saying Mayweather is among the strongest punchers in all of American media when the things above him are Iron Fist, Superman, etc. Yeah, he might be one of the more powerful ones, but the ones that blow up black holes are, probably, a bit out of his league. Objectively speaking he is one of the strongest period, power gaps matter for who is above not bellow >Which is why hunters never try to block them when they're doing the thing they drills through the Earth. Godzilla would snipe them. Already covered that in other comment, there are nice clever strats to avoid or deflect atomic breath >Outside of gameplay mechanics, Godzilla would be louder than anything they'd ever fought. And according to the strategy you're implying, they wouldn't be able to dodge his roar since they'd be 300 feet off the ground. The amount of time for them to get out of range wouldn't be quick enough. Brute tigrex roars are louder than volcanoes exploding(they adpated to be this way to find mates) akantor causes earthquakes with its roar and it does make some volcanoes erupt, even shifts the land in the map, also wire bug makes hunters faster in the air than they could ever be in land Like, seriously just read the other comment I made here.


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100 meters is 109.36 yards


JustAnArtist1221

>You missed the point, regeneration costs energy and at some point there will be no energy left, couple with the broken back plates that will make him lose massive reserves of energy and it will eventually run out pretty fast No, I got your point. It just doesn't matter because, even if you were even close to being on point with your observation, Godzilla would kill the hunters long before these shallow cuts even got close to exhausting him. >Missed point again, the hunters with prep would obviously fight godzilla in a place where there isnt a sea coast, its not like godzilla refuses to go to places where he doesnt have an always ready power source, also if you only getting "a few meters" from wire bug, you are using it wrong, also no way the hunters are staying near godzillas feet, thats dumb, no vitals or weakpoints Again, didn't miss the point. Godzilla genuinely won't go too far from a power source for no reason. There is no situation I've seen where Monsterverse Godzilla was far away from the coast, let alone from a natural or artificial energy source. And hunters rarely determine where the fight will be. And you only get a few meters with wire bugs. That's just a fact, at least relative to Godzilla's height and length. No amount of sliding across the ground or vaulting is going to put a hunter of our Godzilla's range. And I don't care if they stay near his feet. Behind him is even worse and in front of much, much worse than that. >Dude, hunters have climbed creatures bigger than godzilla, zora magdaros, jhen mohran, dalamadur, sha dalamadur, lao shan lung etc. Rolling is only effective is the hunter are grounded, if they are on godzilla they easily wire bug out or call wing drakes too, like thy do with zora magdaros, also, if hunters can dip in lava or stand near teostra who turns glass into sand by sheer presence with only low burn damage, they can tank the heat of standing on godzilla specially since its not burning mode which big g needs help to turn into This is not only false, but it's also a lot of "power of the pen" nonsense. Godzilla dwarfs jhen mohran. He's way taller and like twice as long. I'm great, he's almost as tall as jhen is long. Zohra Magdaros is larger, sure. I'll give you that. But it's also, you know, conveniently shaped. We don't know how hot Godzilla's plates are. Lava is not as hot as a nuclear reactor. Godzilla doesn't need to be Burning to have a high body temperature. And even if they hopped off, that still is an admission that they can't break the plates. If they keep trying, they wouldn't be able to do anything so long as he didn't sit perfectly still. >Did ypu read my comment? The hunters wont use explosives, also yes he could step but they can set dragonators anywhere at any angles, in walls cealings, ground and they can hide, it doesnt matter since they can also make a bunch of disposable dragonators and keep using them, also these siege weapons can take a lot of damage, its not hard to set up dragonators that are hundreds of yrs old even the broken ones that were lost in wars and spent centuries under the sea, crushed by ruble or covered in acid and molten by fatalis flames, also what energy signature? they use steam to work, as for hunter weapons and gear? Is godzilla really detecting bioenergy from whole different verse? Heck we dont even know if the gear emits bioenergy since they get fused with metals and lose some biological factors Godzilla senses all geological activity from radiation to geothermal, etc. If the energy has an effect on the environment, Godzilla can sense it. He can read the entire planet that way and measure the tiniest changes in ocean currents, winds, and so on. Godzilla, in his own mind, has the Earth as one giant sensory organ. Anyway, Godzilla wouldn't fit in a rampage area. He'd tower over most hunter bases and wouldn't even need to walk up to it to destroy them. He could just blow them up from a distance. >Objectively speaking he is one of the strongest period, power gaps matter for who is above not bellow In a very generous interpretation, sure. Again, that's like setting Mayweather is among the strongest punchers in American media simply because over 7 billion people are behind him. Power gaps, actually, matter specifically for whose above you. If you're nowhere near the range of power of those above you, then you're just the strongest among the fodder. >Already covered that in other comment, there are nice clever strats to avoid or deflect atomic breath There's literally nothing in Monster Hunter that can block his atomic breath. Dodging it is wishful thinking and irrelevant to whether or not it's effective. The facilities they need would be destroyed. >Brute tigrex roars are louder than volcanoes exploding(they adpated to be this way to find mates) akantor causes earthquakes with its roar and it does make some volcanoes erupt, even shifts the land in the map, also wire bug makes hunters faster in the air than they could ever be in land Godzilla's roar is audible all the way to the hollow Earth and around the world, depending on who is listening for it. The movies being stupid is the only reason humans don't liquify by standing near him.


DrStarDream

>No, I got your point. It just doesn't matter because, even if you were even close to being on point with your observation, Godzilla would kill the hunters long before these shallow cuts even got close to exhausting him. So you choose to simply ignore it and say they die 100? Great arguement, not like there wont be palicos using heal horn or other hunters using life power, ignore every possibility and just assume they will die. >Again, didn't miss the point. Godzilla genuinely won't go too far from a power source for no reason. There is no situation I've seen where Monsterverse Godzilla was far away from the coast, let alone from a natural or artificial energy source. And hunters rarely determine where the fight will be. If you read the other comment you would not be using this arguement. >And you only get a few meters with wire bugs. That's just a fact, at least relative to Godzilla's height and length. No amount of sliding across the ground or vaulting is going to put a hunter of our Godzilla's range. And I don't care if they stay near his feet. Behind him is even worse and in front of much, much worse than that. So you are ignoring the chances and saying they day again? Thats stupid, the hunters can sling way, specially if they are on godzilla, he cant reach his back, and because of the smaller size, hunters could just jump into his physical attacks and stand on his limbs, reminder that these are hunters that react to lightning, can fall from cliffs just fine, withstand meteor impacts and topple monsters many times their size and weight with shoulder tackles, kicks shield bashes, they are super human in every way, they and are equiped with armor made from super materials that could be at least equal to the hide and shelling of titans and even surpass them due to the fundium ore which allows them to mix monster parts and super alloys, you are really sleeping the skills and stats of hunters, they can tank a swipe from godzilla, they can take the heat of standing near him, they can survive sounds that would blow people s organs, and because of their potions and special healing items they can recover from it, you saying you dont care is just ignorance and not an actual arguement >This is not only false, but it's also a lot of "power of the pen" nonsense. Godzilla dwarfs jhen mohran. He's way taller and like twice as long. I'm great, he's almost as tall as jhen is long. Zohra Magdaros is larger, sure. I'll give you that. But it's also, you know, conveniently shaped. They still climb dalamadur who is bigger than godzilla and is way more rough terrain than zora magdaros and you conveniently ignore that, also say what you want but in terms of difficulty to climb, godzilla is shaped like lao shan lung but way bigger which actually makes it easier to stand on >We don't know how hot Godzilla's plates are. Lava is not as hot as a nuclear reactor. Godzilla doesn't need to be Burning to have a high body temperature. And even if they hopped off, that still is an admission that they can't break the plates. If they keep trying, they wouldn't be able to do anything so long as he didn't sit perfectly still. They can break the back plates, their weapon are made of materials strong enough to allow it, all they gotta do is strike enough times, dragon element will make so godzillas flow of energy becomes slower and making harder for him to heat up, and the more plates get broken, the harder it gets to spend energy trying to burn the hunters, also they dont need godzilla to stand still, they have dragonators to stun, balistas(super alloy tips and dragon coating obviously) to apply more elder seal and they can get some cheap hits into them while godzilla is being overwhelmed and trying to reach his back, its not like all the plates are super large and sturdy, they can go from the smaller ones too, the main problem you have is that you arent thinking about what hunter can do and just going "godzilla will do this and they all die the end" which is as good as saying "they lose I win because I think they dont have any counter play" which low effort and doesnt mean anything, also look godzillas plates dont reach teostras heat aura lvls of heat by themselves, nuclear reactors are made of metals and materials that have lower melting points than glass so that breaks your arguement >Godzilla senses all geological activity from radiation to geothermal, etc. If the energy has an effect on the environment, Godzilla can sense it. He can read the entire planet that way and measure the tiniest changes in ocean currents, winds, and so on. Godzilla, in his own mind, has the Earth as one giant sensory organ. Anyway, Godzilla wouldn't fit in a rampage area. He'd tower over most hunter bases and wouldn't even need to walk up to it to destroy them. He could just blow them up from a distance. And dragon energy has nothing to do with geological frequencies or radiation, dragon element absorbs and hinders other types of energy(including vibrations, temperatures, particle vibrations, light, chemical reactions and radiation), and MH bioenergy is straight up magical with nothing similar existing in the monsterverse, say what you want but godzilla will either struggle to detect or not detect anything at all , also he wouldnt know what they are and by the time he sees what they can do he already is in their range of action >There's literally nothing in Monster Hunter that can block his atomic breath. Dodging it is wishful thinking and irrelevant to whether or not it's effective. The facilities they need would be destroyed. Kong reacted to it and hunter have fast enough reflexes to do it, also if thick glass reinforced with random polished metal(probably an alluminum or silver based alloy) found at the top of random rich Chinese skyscraper can deflect atomic breath, Im pretty sure some super crystals made from the energy of multiple dead dragons from the elders recess can refract or deflect it and serve as a great mirror like structure to delfect it, also they can make multiple of those facilities spread in a large are with enough prep time and cover them up with those special mirrors >Godzilla's roar is audible all the way to the hollow Earth and around the world, depending on who is listening for it. The movies being stupid is the only reason humans don't liquify by standing near him. Is only audible all the way to hollow earth because he made hole there and was facing it, his roar can reach there normally, what he can do is produce a frequency that reaches hollow earth, but hey even the nucleus of our very planet sends sound frequencies to the surface and us mere irl humans dont die to those sound frequencies despite being constantly bombarded by them ever since birth, you are missing hard onto the physics of sound, hell, many animals produces sound that can be heard from few countries away Please just read my bigger comment, its click on read all and scroll up a bit and you will find it, it will clear a lot of your misconceptions


JustAnArtist1221

Your other comment was you imagining, under the best possible scenarios, Godzilla losing 5/10 times. That's like me saying I can beat anyone in chess if I'm the only one allowed to checkmate. That's like saying a toddler can kill Superman if he's sleep with a kryptonite knife. Yeah, sure, you can say that, but that's not really a victory in a fight. That's just you fantasizing about the character dying. And I don't think you're understanding Godzilla's abilities. He's not just trying to suffer a particular energy. He uses all his collective senses to pinpoint phenomenon. Even if hunters used magic, if that magic interacts with the world around him, he can sense the effects. He's not going to approach an energy dead zone. >Is only audible all the way to hollow earth because he made hole there and was facing it, his roar can reach there normally, what he can do is produce a frequency that reaches hollow earth, but hey even the nucleus of our very planet sends sound frequencies to the surface and us mere irl humans dont die to those sound frequencies despite being constantly bombarded by them ever since birth, you are missing hard onto the physics of sound, hell, many animals produces sound that can be heard from few countries away Things wouldn't even be visible into the hollow Earth, let alone audible. And Godzilla can be heard around the world. It's not just a frequency going down a hole, it's just him being loud. Hunters in Monster Hunter are safe far away from monsters until they finish training. All human civilization is far, far away from wyverns and elder dragons except in situations where you have to hunt them for getting too close. And a lot of your arguments are just you using game mechanics. Palicos die here, too. They can't just dig away and rest when they're drilled to the planet's core. Godzilla's body can withstand the impact of nukes. They can hack at his body as much as they want. There's no reason to believe they can hurt him significantly. You just assume they HAVE to be able to hurt him because, in their universe, their weapons are strong. Hunters don't even just survive meteor impacts and stuff in cannon. Elder dragons are almost a guaranteed death sentence and they do a fraction of what Ghidorah does.


DrStarDream

>Your other comment was you imagining, under the best possible scenarios, Godzilla losing 5/10 times. That's like me saying I can beat anyone in chess if I'm the only one allowed to checkmate. That's like saying a toddler can kill Superman if he's sleep with a kryptonite knife. Yeah, sure, you can say that, but that's not really a victory in a fight. That's just you fantasizing about the character dying. Seems you dont understand what a 5/10 win rate means, what you described with that very skewed child vs superman argument is what a 0.0000001/10 is, 5/10 means that its a fight that can go either way, and there is still the fact that hunters have an 8/10 chance of simply making so godzilla just gives up and runs away, you cant say 5/10 is meaningless, a tie is a tie and it is a pretty commendable, you example is just poor, a child cant find a kriptonite knife, and doesnt have the reaction or the durability to stab superman, with the hunters Im giving them a whole yr of prep time, help from the guild to set up an advantageous arena and some before hand knowledge, which is usually what hunters have anyway when they hunt creatures that are on the high end of the food chain, zora magdaros? 40 yrs of investigation and prep, fatalis? Whole centuries since schrade was destroyed with the guild actively trying to clear the area and send troops to sacrifice themselves to set barricades and special weapons, this is simply how the guild and hunters would tackle something like godzilla, its not like a child with a kriptonite knife trying to fight super man, hunters are super human and equiped with things with a quality way above the anything on earth, you cant compare it to a dumb scenario like that >And I don't think you're understanding Godzilla's abilities. He's not just trying to suffer a particular energy. He uses all his collective senses to pinpoint phenomenon. Even if hunters used magic, if that magic interacts with the world around him, he can sense the effects. He's not going to approach an energy dead zone. Now you are bring head canon into it, therent any multiple senses comming to pinpoint anything, godzilla just senses radiation which btw every type of atom(known to man) produces radiation, sensing radiation doesnt require multiple senses or anything, just a very sensitive sense of touch, snakes, platapus, moles, echidnas and a bunch of other animals can sense it, godzilla just has it upped to a million, godzilla is an earth creature first and foremost, he never had contact with any of the materials or energies from MH he would not know what is going on even if he could sense them(which is doubtful due to the non physical properties some of them have) also by your own logic godzilla should be able to sense the insides overy kaiju and be able to dodge and move out of any attack and know everything his opponents will do, which godzilla doesnt do nor has ever done in any canon, also just because there stuff the cant sense doesnt mean that it is an "energy dead zone" it still has stuff like sand, earth, humidity body temperature of creatures etc, you are either taking everything to the extreme on purpose or you simply dont know a lot about monster hunter or even godzilla and arguing based of bias >Things wouldn't even be visible into the hollow Earth, let alone audible. And Godzilla can be heard around the world. It's not just a frequency going down a hole, it's just him being loud. So you dont know how sound physics works, dude in real life scientists can detect sound coming from the core of the planet, because guess what? Sound everything produces sound, godzilla never melted everyone around him with a world encompassing roar, his roal reached hollow earth in Godzilla vs Kong because godzilla opened a hole there shouted at the top of his lungs, no one died, no suffred, he was loud for sure but still has no feats of killing anything with it, and yes he can produce a frequency that reaches all of the planet(all alpha titans can) but it doesnt serve to kill people nor can be used this way, its just a frequency made to communicate with other kaiju, you are inventing stuff to wank godzilla and doing horrible reaches based on straight up wrong pseudo science, even the sun emits a soudnd frequency and we are all fine living, not every sound that reaches thousands of kilometers has to be loud, science actually points out that loud noises travel way worse than lower pitched and not so energy consuming noises >Hunters in Monster Hunter are safe far away from monsters until they finish training. All human civilization is far, far away from wyverns and elder dragons except in situations where you have to hunt them for getting too close. Nah, not true at all, fatalis lives in schrade which is not too far away from the region where lao shan lung was fought, hell, lao was fleeing from fatalis and this is why we had to hunt him, he was going trample a whole kingdom, nakarkos is pretty close to civilized areas despite being able to blow up a mountain with his dragon laser, he even ate whole villages that were nearby, teostra and lunastra are constantly travelingaround the world and they leave rows of fire where they pass by, many civilizations know that sudden consseutive increases in temperature means their approach, narwa and ibushi reassonating waves were the cause of the rampage, they were constantly sending communication frequencies off and monsters from all over the continent reacted to it, they were doing it so much that hinoa and minoto were sensing it, the mohran elder dragons all live in a huge desert where vallhabar is, they constantly set out yearly hunts because they spend time underground near the core of the planet and their bodies get coated in rare materials, people dont live that far away from elder dragons, they are part of nature too, heck the guild constantly sets explorers and scholars to chase, observe and document elder drgaons the only time the guild was not aware of an elder dragon was the case with xenojiiva, all other elders we fought are registered and have already been named, the fact that they know this much means someone spent time living nearby and being constantly exposed to the sounds and frequencies these monsters produce >And a lot of your arguments are just you using game mechanics. Palicos die here, too. They can't just dig away and rest when they're drilled to the planet's core. Godzilla's body can withstand the impact of nukes. They can hack at his body as much as they want. There's no reason to believe they can hurt him significantly. You just assume they HAVE to be able to hurt him because, in their universe, their weapons are strong. Hunters don't even just survive meteor impacts and stuff in cannon. Elder dragons are almost a guaranteed death sentence and they do a fraction of what Ghidorah does. Palicos die, hunters die, monster die, but there are literal cases of people failing hunts and nor dying, palicos doe dig away to hide in lore, hunter do faint or get knocked out and palicos rescue and trat them in exchange for part of the reward, thats what most felyne burrows are for, since felyne tribes do communicate with the guild and they even request hunts, hunder do dodge lightning, they can fall high places without dying(start of MH world cutscene), there are hunters who canonically hunted kirin as there are rich people aristocrats who request kirin horns to feed their pet rajangs, and your arguement of the weapons is straight up wrong, basic physics simply allow it, there are houses and strictures that survived nukes there is even metal scraps in the places where nukes exploded at point blank, but we know those materials can be broken and scratched and you know why? Because the forces applied in a nuke are completely different from the forces applied when you use a diamond to pierce bedrock, just like the death roar sound arguement, you are straight up using wrong science and doing assumptions based on misconceptions, godzilla got cuts and scratches from many other kaiju, that clearly are not doing blows and strikes stronger than a nuke, so your point is moot, their bodies are simply made of materials that are immune to most earth weapons, also say what you want but most deaths to elder dragons happend because not all hunters are trained equal and dont have proper equipment, there is huge power, experience and resource gap between high rank and G/Master rank hunters, everyone hunter you see in MH world has cannonically hunted at least 1 elder dragon as they are all A listers, best of the best sent to explore a new land, how many deaths do we have in worlds fifth fleet? Either zero of just really low numbers, dont confuse game mechanics with explicitly confirmed and explained mechanics that are relevant to gameplay and have in world explanations